
FanHouse's Tom Ziller argues his ranking of the top 50 players in the NBA.
Last spring, I made a case under this banner for Chris Paul to be included in any future consideration for Next G.O.A.T. (greatest of all time). People had bandied about comparisons to Isiah Thomas and suggested Paul could maybe someday find himself in the upper echelon of the game's point guards. But the overwhelming assertion from the masses: Paul hasn't proved anything, and it will be a long time before we can call him the best.
Be as patient as you like, my friends, but I'm not waiting around to crown CP3. If his performance remains even close to last season's effort (at age 22), you're looking at the future greatest point guard of the modern era. After the jump, I'll explain my rationale.
First, to the folks who imply 2007-08 might have been a fluke, that Paul's season could have been a mirage: um, what? Eighty-two games, 12 masterful playoff games ... a mirage? He hasn't proven anything yet? He just had the greatest statistical season for any point guard in the modern era (since 1980, when turnovers hit the box score). No guard has ever had a season like that at age 22. His performance was simply incredible, one of the top 20 seasons by a guard ever -- statistically more impressive than any season by Magic, Kobe, Steve Nash, Isiah Thomas, John Stockton, Jason Kidd. Chris Paul was absolutely gobsmacking.
When I built the case for Paul last May, I focused on PER, John Hollinger's linear weights metric with takes your common box score and adjusts for minutes, team pace, league average performance and a few other anomalies which cloud our view of pure production. BallHype's Jason Gurney did a similar project at the time, building a tool to compare Paul to similar players and rivals and showing just how dominant Paul had been in '07-08. (That tool still blows my mind, check it out.)
But a lot of smart folks don't get PER, can't grok exactly what it means. That's perfectly understandable: it's a complex metric and poorly explained on the web ... and Hollinger's old Pro Basketball Prospectus books aren't exactly in every library. So, while building a more universal understanding of what PER is and why we use it might help the argument, I'll instead turn the discussion a more basic route and remove the metric from my argument. This is now a No PER Zone.
Let's take the two consensus greatest point guards of the modern era, Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas. Paul gets the Thomas comp often, but most would list Magic atop any modern era list. Fair enough: those two were great, great players, a pair of the best players in our league's history. And Paul -- at age 22 -- is already on par with them.
The following graph displays some figures for the best statistical season for Paul, Johnson and Thomas. For Paul, of course, it's '07-08. For Johnson, we went with 1986-87. For Thomas, it's 1984-85. We took per-game box score statistics and made one crucial adjustment: pace. (This is something suggested by the great Kelly Dwyer.) We adjusted each player's figures to suggest what the player would be done if his team played at the pace of 100 possessions per game. If we don't make this adjustment, a player from a slow team has a material disadvantage in racking up numbers: if Player A's team has the ball for 90 possessions, and Player B's team has 105 possessions, then there are more opportunities for Player B to get a point, an assist, a steal. Adjusting for pace just evens this out.
So let's take a look at the pace-adjusted numbers.

Remember, we aren't using PER, so there's no killer, one-number statistic to point at. This is just your basic point guard rundown: points (Paul and Magic land within a tenth of a point of each other, Isiah was not as potent), assists (Isiah has a small advantage over Paul, and a substantial lead over Magic), rebounds (Magic leads the way, thanks to his large frame and enormous hands), steals (simply no contest, as Paul tallies 50% more steals than Isiah and nearly twice as many as Magic) and turnovers (Paul coughs up the ball far less frequently).
Judging by this, you'd conclude Isiah's peak doesn't quite match up with those of Paul and Magic, yes? Thomas scored really well for a point guard, but Paul and Johnson are on another level, some 16% higher. The lead over Paul in assists (about 2%) in nominal, and nothing else Thomas does exceeds Paul's performance.
What about Magic and Paul ... whose statistical peak was better? The race for points is dead even. Paul averaged roughly an additional assist per game (pace-adjusted). The rebounding edge definitely favors Magic ... but Paul saves a full possession with regard to turnovers and earns almost twice as many steals. What matters more from a point guard: two extra rebounds, or an assist, 1.3 steals and 0.9 turnovers? I certainly feel comfortable giving the victory to Paul.
And, ahem, one more note:
CHRIS PAUL DID THIS AT AGE 22.
This was a comparison of peak seasons. The average NBA superstar guard (Jordan, Kobe, Magic) peaks at age 27. Chris Paul will play another four seasons before this expected peak season comes about. Some players do hit their statistical peak early -- Isiah was 23 during '84-85 -- but it's rare, and completely unprecedented at age 22. If Paul never had a season as good or better than his '07-08, it would be the first time in the modern era a top-flight guard had peaked at age 22. Are you betting on those odds?Look, I'm not saying that if Paul retired tomorrow he'd go down as the greatest point guard of our time. Peak production is one piece of the whole argument -- you'll take a cat who rips the league to shreds for a decade over one who completely obliterates everything in sight for a couple seasons. To claim Greatest Point Guard status, Paul needs to sustain some semblance of his indicated performance.
But the seed is without question in place. Paul is such an order of magnitude better than any other point guard in the league and any other point guard we've seen in two decades ... it's simply absurd to deny him the respect and attention he has demanded.
The NBA isn't Chris Paul's oyster. Chris Paul is the oyster. Relax, and enjoy the pearls.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
10-15-2008 @ 2:46PM
ERICK said...
LOL
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10-15-2008 @ 3:32PM
Rich C. said...
Mr. Ziller et al
Have you people ever even heard of Nate (Tiny) Archibald??
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10-15-2008 @ 4:52PM
steve said...
He barely played in the 80s. At the beginning TZ said that he was comparing Paul to players playing since 1980, when turnovers became a recorded statistic. And TZ is a sactown-fan so i think he knows who Tiny is.
10-15-2008 @ 4:03PM
Chester said...
ok, dont get me wrong, I LOVE CHRIS PAUL'S GAME!!
But to have him #2? I just cant do it, Top 5 ok! But #2? That's a hard one to swallow this early in his career!
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10-15-2008 @ 4:13PM
David said...
What does his career stage have to do with anything?
You're good or you're not, and Chris Paul is incredible. He woulda gotten my MVP vote last year.
10-15-2008 @ 4:52PM
Aleks said...
Absolute fantastic analysis. I cannot see how anyone could possibly argue with this conclusion. Maybe with the ranking, which is undoubtedly subjective, but not with the underlying rationale.
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10-15-2008 @ 4:47PM
henryclemente said...
I agree that Chris Paul is THAT good. All the scoffers on previous posts, did you even watch any Hornets games last season? Only complaint, I wish John Stockton was included in the analysis.
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10-15-2008 @ 5:13PM
David said...
My only criticism of this analysis is there is no mention of the obvious defensive advantages Magic has over Paul.
Yes, Paul gets more steals, but we all know steals aren't indicative of how good someone actually defends.
Magic's huge frame allowed him to defend multiple positions. No opposing PG was going to post him up. His defensive versatility needs to be brought into the discussion.
Other than that, great analysis. Agree that when all is said and done, Paul *could* be the best PG of all time.
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10-15-2008 @ 5:41PM
Jams said...
Other than the fact that, he got burned by Tony Parker, Devon Williams, B Drizzle, and The Raging Rando consistently last season, he is the greatest player in the history of playing. His stats are better anything the Big O, Tiny or Magic ever put up. Apart from the small issue of his disappearance in the olympics and Games 5 & 6 of the WCF, Chis is the biggest games playest of all eternity or whatever.
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10-15-2008 @ 6:36PM
ManofSteelo said...
Guess you've never heard of the Suns' Kevin Johnson, or the season he had in 1988-89 at age 22 -- his SECOND in the league.
Amateurs . . . .
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10-16-2008 @ 12:01AM
Martin said...
Gee, I didn't realize that Chris Paul played the center position in the championship finals. Oh wait, that was Magic Johnson. Magic could, and did, play every position on the court . Paul, not so much. I'm not saying that Chris Paul isn't an excellent player. He's just no Magic Johnson.
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10-16-2008 @ 1:36AM
anthony avent said...
chris is a great player and will go down as on of the greatest to play the position but magic should not be included in this debate ,magic was a once in a life time player like ali was in boxing no player can duplicate his versatility on the court his smarts his leadership his unselfishness ,his size alone, he was physical enough to be a big man and finesse enough to run the show no player could grab a rebound and make a bounce pass full court to a runing worthy for a dunk
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10-16-2008 @ 10:13AM
Ben said...
It could be argued that Kevin Johnson had his best season as a pro at age 22: He played more games that season than any other in his career, averaged 20.2 pts a game on 50% shooting to go with 12.2 assists, 4.2 rebounds and 1.7 steals (and 4.0 turnovers--Stats from basketball-reference.com) I'd have to say that having your best season at age 22 isn't unprecedented.
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10-16-2008 @ 8:45PM
Joy said...
maybe this is a reverse order because no way Chris Paul and Kobe should be at the bottom of the list.
Chris is an awesome player and very intelligent
I bless you Chris
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10-17-2008 @ 12:42AM
John said...
PACE adjustments?!? Like the ole saying goes -figures don't lie but liars can figure. That Chris Paul is great - no question - that Chris Paul is better than Magic Johnson, even on a statistical basis, is a LIE. The Pace adjustments certainaly seem to only favor CP. Magic's career numbers are as good as Paul's storied season and by the way one could easily view Magic's 88-89 season as superior to 86-87. So lets look at some more stats - Magic has a superior FG % , Magic has a superior FT% - which incidentally might be the only constant between the different eras of roundball.
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10-22-2008 @ 12:45AM
mikes said...
I don't see how you can put CP3 this high. All the stats say he is a defensive liability despite his high steal rate. Sorry, but if half of his game missing, he can't be the second best player in the league especially when #3 and #4 are both known for excellent defense.
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12-26-2008 @ 10:26AM
cp3 said...
magic was just amazing i do admit that. but cp is the king of the fast break he is so explosive, fun to watch
if he keeps it up he is comparable but
magic wow he is a legend
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