Do you see the foul? I watched the play unfold live and I've seen the replay from a couple of angles and I'm still not sure when or where Rip Hamilton touched Larry Hughes. Nevertheless, Hughes got the call, sending him to the line for three free throws, which tied the game and ultimately sent it into overtime. The Knicks eventually won 116-111.
After the game, Hughes was asked where Hamilton made contact, and from his description you'd think he was mauled. "Across the arms, across the legs," he said. "He contested pretty tough, so, I kind of leaned in a little bit and got even more contact."
If there was any contact at all, it seemed to come after the shot when Hughes kicked out his leg. Hamilton made that argument to the ref during the game, and Hughes didn't exactly deny it after. "Well, hey, he pushes off, so ..." he said while laughing. "It's part of the game."
Despite admitting to some theatrics, Hughes seemed offended when I asked him if he was surprised to get that call at that point in the game. "No, when it was that obvious when it was a foul. You can always debate if it's a foul or not, but when you draw contact, especially at that moment when we needed three points -- they say never foul a jump-shooter, and [when] you contest like that, you got to get the benefit of the doubt."
They also say "the most aggressive team gets the whistles," and the Pistons were the most aggressive team for most of the night. They won the rebounding battle by 25, shot better from the field (46.9% to 43.4%) and, with the exception of Hughes' gift-wrapped free throws, received nearly identical treatment from the refs -- both teams were whistled 22 personal fouls. All things considered, this was a strange game for the Pistons to lose.
So what happened? Fluke calls aside, Detroit's conservative offense simply couldn't keep up with the Knicks. Mike D'Antoni's system is more than fast breaks -- it's also taking a lot of three-pointers. The Knicks shot 10-for-32 from three-point range; the Pistons, meanwhile, shot 1-for-9.
That's a difference of 27 points, which is extremely difficult to make up when you're getting equal treatment from the refs and are shooting good-not-great from two-point land. As much as Detroit fans complain about Rasheed Wallace taking too many three-pointers, the Pistons missed his presence (he was sidelined with a sore calf) beyond the arc on Wednesday.
it looked like rip hit his arm and i really think he did. There was contact there and it doesnt matter about the roughest team gets the benefit of the doubt. It was about that play and he did get hit a bit. Both teams played hard, but knicks just came out on top like that, not to mention that there was a lot of contact all game till that point.
I'm a Pistons fan and I'm not going to make excuses. The Pistons, especially Rip, turned the ball over so many times (and look at Stuckey turning the ball over on the Pistons'last possession as well). Not to mention they blew a double-digit point lead. Kinda hard blaming the refs about this loss, especially considering both teams were whistled, as you posted, 22 personal fouls. Besides, I checked several forums and blogs and I admit I didn't see many people complaining about this foul called on Rip.
How An approached that is why people in Cleveland respect Pistons fans. Honestly I don't see the foul and it would be easy for a Pistons fan to make an excuse, but they understand there other things that contributed to the loss. Personally I think you peeps were ripped off when the team traded Billups. Detroit fans do a great job supporting there team and they deserve better from the management.
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3-12-2009 @ 7:16PM
akelzanie said...
awww come on!
it looked like rip hit his arm and i really think he did. There was contact there and it doesnt matter about the roughest team gets the benefit of the doubt. It was about that play and he did get hit a bit. Both teams played hard, but knicks just came out on top like that, not to mention that there was a lot of contact all game till that point.
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3-13-2009 @ 2:19AM
An. said...
I'm a Pistons fan and I'm not going to make excuses. The Pistons, especially Rip, turned the ball over so many times (and look at Stuckey turning the ball over on the Pistons'last possession as well). Not to mention they blew a double-digit point lead. Kinda hard blaming the refs about this loss, especially considering both teams were whistled, as you posted, 22 personal fouls. Besides, I checked several forums and blogs and I admit I didn't see many people complaining about this foul called on Rip.
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3-13-2009 @ 8:21AM
rjw6683 said...
How An approached that is why people in Cleveland respect Pistons fans. Honestly I don't see the foul and it would be easy for a Pistons fan to make an excuse, but they understand there other things that contributed to the loss. Personally I think you peeps were ripped off when the team traded Billups. Detroit fans do a great job supporting there team and they deserve better from the management.
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