You likely already know this: Outside of the Laker Nation, folks can't stand Phil and Kobe.OK, they really dislike them.
Actually, they hate them.
Except for a few little things involving Phil Jackson and several bigger ones involving Kobe Bryant, none of this is justified. You can blame it on their refusal to change their distinctive (some would say grating) personalities. As a result, you have this ugly mixture of jealousy, envy and emotionalism among Phil and Kobe bashers. They are convinced that this extraordinary coach of the Los Angeles Lakers and his nearly incomparable star player are responsible for everything from global warming to those car keys you lost in the summer of 1997.
So after the Lakers dispose of the Orlando Magic within the next few days during these NBA Finals, cover your ears. The Phil and Kobe bashers will scream louder than usual, because Jackson will have his 10th world championship to break his tie with Red Auerbach for the all-time record among coaches.
Worse for those bashers, Bryant will make it official that he can win it all without You Know Who. He'll also have four rings to LeBron James' zero.
I mention LeBron, because on The Likeable Scale, LeBron is the people's choice compared to Kobe. This makes no sense. LeBron has those childish things on his resumé such as tossing chalk into the air before games, embarrassing opponents by clowning with his teammates on the court and sprinting into the night after his Cleveland Cavaliers were shoved out of the playoffs.
Still, LeBron isn't viewed by the Phil and Kobe bashers as "arrogant" -- you know, one of the cleaner words they use to describe Bryant.
As for Jackson, they prefer the "s" word, as in smug.
To hear Phil and Kobe bashers tell it, both Lakers are aloof and downright cocky along the way to insufferable. Then again, these things happen to those involved with consistent greatness, especially if you are controversial. Just ask Alex Rodriguez.
You also can ask those part of legendary powerhouses ranging from the Dallas Cowboys to the Big Red Machine to Duke basketball to the New York Yankees of Ruth, DiMaggio, Mantle and Jackson to the Fighting Irish of Rockne, Leahy, Parseghian and Holtz.
But let's stick with NBA history, where Auerbach is considered hoops deity now. He wasn't back then to his slew of bashers. You can blame it on all of that winning by his Boston Celtics teams, along with his noted confidence and his smelly cigars. It was a combination that had the bashers claiming his success was more a product of his rosters stuffed with Hall of Famers than his strategies.
I mean, the man had Bill Russell.
So what strategies?
Sound familiar?
Instead of strategies, Jackson is noted for philosophies. Bizarre ones, at least if you like your coaches to be more into X's and O's than of Zen and Native-American spirituality. Thus the questions from the bashers: Does this eternally cerebral guy who prefers flip-flops and jeans away from the court think he is superior to the rest of his more conventional peers? What day of the week does he pay the refs to get all of those calls for the Lakers, and does he use American dollars or Indian rupees? Plus, he played with the New York Knicks under that other prolific Red named Holzman, so is that why Phil despises the Red from Boston?
Jackson keeps denying such talk, but the bashers aren't listening. Said Phil, regarding the significance of passing Auerbach for that 10th ring: "Every championship is so dramatic and so hard-earned that each one singly stands out. But multitude, two handfuls is ridiculous. I know that. That would be something."
According to the bashers, that would be overrated.
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Orlando Magic's head coach Stan Van Gundy (L) watches his team's workout from the seats near player Dwight Howard in Orlando, Florida June 13, 2009. The Magic face the Los Angeles Lakers in Game 5 of the NBA Finals Sunday. REUTERS/Hans Deryk (UNITED STATES SPORT BASKETBALL)
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Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant listens to a question during a news conference at the NBA basketball finals Saturday, June 13, 2009 in Orlando, Fla. The Lakers lead the Orlando Magic 3-1 going into Sunday's Game 5. (AP Photo/Mark Duncan)
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Los Angeles Lakers' Pau Gasol, from Spain, warms up before practice at the NBA basketball finals Saturday, June 13, 2009 in Orlando, Fla. The Lakers lead the Orlando Magic 3-1 going into Sunday's Game 5. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
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Los Angeles Lakers coach Phil Jackson helps the ball boys during basketball practice at the NBA Finals, Saturday, June 13, 2009, in Orlando, Fla. The Lakers lead the Orlando Magic 3-1 going into Sunday's Game 5. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
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Los Angeles Lakers coach Phil Jackson watches basketball practice at the NBA Finals, Saturday, June 13, 2009, in Orlando, Fla. The Lakers lead the Orlando Magic 3-1 going into Sunday's Game 5. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
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Los Angeles Lakers' Derek Fisher laughs as he walks onto the floor for basketball practice at the NBA Finals, Saturday, June 13, 2009, in Orlando, Fla. The Lakers lead the Orlando Magic 3-1 going into Sunday's Game 5. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
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Orlando Magic's Rafer Alston listens to a reporter's question after a basketball team practice in Orlando, Florida June 13, 2009. Orlando Magic faces the Los Angeles Lakers in Game of the NBA Finals Sunday. REUTERS/Hans Deryk (UNITED STATES SPORT BASKETBALL HEADSHOT)
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Los Angeles Lakers' Pau Gasol laughs during the team's practice in Orlando, Florida June 13, 2009. The Lakers face the Orlando Magic in Game 5 of the NBA Finals on Sunday. REUTERS/Hans Deryk (UNITED STATES SPORT BASKETBALL)
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Los Angeles Lakers' Derek Fisher, right, stretches before basketball practice at the NBA Finals, Saturday, June 13, 2009, in Orlando, Fla. The Lakers lead the Orlando Magic 3-1 going into Sunday's Game 5. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
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Los Angeles Lakers' Sasha Vujacic, from Slovenia, dribbles with his feet during practice at the NBA basketball finals Saturday, June 13, 2009 in Orlando, Fla. The Lakers lead the Orlando Magic 3-1 going into Sunday's Game 5. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
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Just the other day, former NBA player Alonzo Mourning was the latest to say Jackson is a beneficiary of his environment. He won six world championships in Chicago with Michael Jordan, and his three titles with the Lakers featured Shaquille O'Neal playing Batman to Kobe's Robin.
Now Kobe is Batman, and Mourning said of Jackson: "To tell you the truth, Phil doesn't have to do anything but call timeouts. Kobe is the facilitator. He is the one driving the mission of this particular team right now. The communication level he has with his teammates out there, you can just see it. I think Phil is just showing up, to tell you the truth, and Kobe is doing all the work to make this team successful."
At least Mourning isn't a Kobe basher. That's in contrast to a slew of others who will frown before yelling without taking a breath...
He's a snitch.
He tries to act like Michael Jordan.
He forced the Lakers to trade Shaq, because he was jealous of him, and that's why he snitched on him about his alleged womanizing.
He throws elbows.
He's just a dirty player.
He's sneaky.
He yells at his teammates.
He ignores his teammates.
He's a punk.
He's selfish.
He pays refs when Phil doesn't.
They'll mention that Colorado mess, too, when Kobe was involved in his extramarital situation that became a nasty legal matter. He survived after prosecutors dropped the charges, and this is interesting: Many of his bashers said the whole thing made Bryant more human. So before that, they viewed Kobe as -- what? A Martian, a candy bar, a Christmas tree? They don't even know. Blind hatred does such things, but this isn't to say that neither Kobe nor Phil is worthy of criticism.
For instance: Phil didn't invent the offense that he famously runs. Although Jeff Van Gundy once sarcastically referred to Jackson as "Big Chief Triangle," Tex Winter was the architect of the triangle offense. And, as Mourning alluded to, Jackson does just sit there without animation during games. He loathes timeouts. His stated mission is to give his players enough time to work out their various issues on the court.
When it works, Phil looks great. When it doesn't, he looks old.
As for Kobe, he can become self-absorbed on the court. It showed during Games 3 and 4 of the NBA Finals when he turned the ball over while ignoring his teammates in the midst of a double-team. Plus, in contrast to what Kobe is doing now, he failed to prove during his previous seasons without Shaq that he could make those around him better on the floor and in the locker room.
Nobody's perfect. It's just that in a basketball sense, Phil and Kobe are closer to ranking as such a thing than most, whether their bashers like it or not.










Comments (Page 1 of 6)
dont mind phil, but kobe is just out of this world easily the most hated person in my life, AND I don't even know him. that's unprecedented as far as me. just put on a smile when you play! don't run back on D after EVERY made basket looking like you are god's gift to the earth. have fun while playing a game maybe?
Kobe is the biggest douche bag ever.
And a rapist.
He's the biggest cheapshot artist in the league.
He gets away with more elbows and undercutting other players when they are in the air than anyone else in the league.
And, he's just a dick head in general. Always a cry baby. Always whining.
His skills aren't close to Jordan's. He'll never be Jordan, no matter how hard he tries.
Jordan was one of the best deffenders ever to play his position. Kobe doesn't even bother with defense. He doesn't want the extra effort to take away from his scoring.
That's his whole thing. He wants to be like Mike, But Mike was cool, and Kobe's just a dick.
Obviously you have never watched other players' expressions after making plays. It's amazing how narrow minded you haters can be, you probably loved MJ's tongue, hmmmmmmmmmmm!
Why do you feel the need to "hate" anybody? Grow up!
Keep hating haters. its okay. Kobe doesn't care and many lakers fans don't care anyway. You guys are irrelevant and actually sound like whinny losers. It is only natural for you to feel this way because you put so much stock in a silly game. That you need Kobe to smile for you to enjoy his game? are you kidding? Get a life, look at the bright side of life unless of course Basketball it is the only thing you have...
@nate. Obviously you're a loser. If you want to have fun, play intramural ball. People's livelihoods hinge on winning and losing. And the fact that you hate somebody for no other reason than they don't smile after they make a basket is stupid.
I agree this may be a game but he's paid to win...this is his personal goal and cant be considered less meaningful than many other jobs just because its entertainment plus have you seen how hard this dude works in the off-season??? this dude takes his job very seriously...being driven with your goals in life should be admired not hated.
Um, I believe Nate also mentioned the "rape" thing as a reason for hating Kobe.
I'm with Nate: whether it was proven in court to be rape or not, we have a married man flying to Colorado and bangin' a teenager. In other words, he's a douche bag.
Great basketball player.
Douche.
i know a couple of people who have met mourning and said he was an arrogant ass hole but i kind of agree that kobe is making THIS ONE an easy one for phil... i mean i saw kobe with a clipboard drawing up plays in a critical point of a game in these playoffs lol i'm not sure i've ever seen anything like that... if anybody else has i'd like to know about...can you reply and give me an example? seriously
And Mourning probably cheated on his wife too which most ball players in any sport do. Most ball players probably aren't particularly nice people. They've been told all their lives how great they are because of their talent, women are constantly throwing themselves at them, and they usually don't have to suffer the full consequences of their actions like most of us do. And most great athletes are arrogant
True as a man you should have the character to realize how fortunate you are for that talent and not disrespect fans and non-athletes...but like you said its hard to develop that character when everyone is telling you how great you are hoes are always jockin lol... I've seen that type of quality in athlete's like derrick rose since high school though despite his recent troubles
Well, honestly it's hard to recall anything like exactly what we saw Kobe doing with a clipboard the other night in an NBA Finals game. Although, I do remember a Spurs regular season game where Tim Duncan just called time out and took the clipboard from the coach and started calling a play. But under the light heartedness of this regular season game it was evident that the coaching staff found every bit of humor there was in that. So they just let the team call the rest of the plays. According to Pop it was sort of a break in all the hard serious work they were doing in that point of the season...
I've been a basketball fan since I was 5 and I truly don't understand how anyone can hate Phil Jackson, they're just incredibly jealous that he's not THEIR coach.
As a lifetime Lakersfan, I can actually understand why people don't like Kobe. He's arrogant. He gets upset at meaningless losses. He's just an overall jerk while playing basketball. But he does something Queen James can't do: win in the NBA Finals.
phil jackson is an average coach who has ridden the coat tails of his superstar players to championship titles. let's see what he could do with the cellar teams of the league that that don't have jordan or kobe and shaq. jackson was in the right place at the right time. i'm not jealous of him nor are other people. i also wouldn't want him as my teams coach. look what he did to chicago when he left. what do you think he'll do to the lakers when he leave. wait he won't leave he's banging the owners daughter. talk about job security.
I agree. To be honest, I really do not care about Phil. *Shrug* Kobe is a different story. People always say haters and bashers only weild this blind rage for people on their quest to actual greatness, and as their success looms upon the horizon, the bashers only get more louder as a proclamation to the various insecurities within themselves. In some cases, this is true, however, dealing with Kobe I beg to differ. Come on, Kobe is arrogant and he does elbow and uppercut. Did you guys see how he brought Nelson to the ground with one of those wounding elbows? He does try and chew his gum like Jordan. He does whine and cry like a baby when things do not go his way on the court, and I do not care what anyone says, his new scowl is so rehearsed.
Kobe is hella good at what he does, do not get me wrong. He's great. But it is one thing to be great, and it is another thing to act on it. I really dislike his disposition. Aren't I allowed that much without being called a basher?
Whats the matter ZO...been pissin' blood?
GO KOBE; GO PHIL; GO LAKERRRRRRRS!
Kobe is a TURD!!!
Are you kidding me ? Paying the refs off is what these Lakers are doing, PLEASE? In game 4 the Lakers did not get a whistle throughout the 4th quarter and then not until Pietris's flagrent foul on Gasol with less than a minute to go in overtime. This means that Orlando did not commit a foul for the last 16:40 minutes of this game, how is that even possible folks ???
I agree All those phantom calls in the 1st against the Lakers, 18-0 in the 4th, 20 to 37 in the game, out maned 8 to 5 on the floor, and the Refs still couldn't help them win.The nerve to fine Phil. Kobe and Phil are what they are and your just jealous. Do you give your all in things you do? If you did you would understand. If you did AND quit your griping, just think what a better place this could be :)